Katie is a mother to three and has been an American expat living abroad for over five years including the entire length of former President Trump's first (and maybe only) term. Listen as she and Travis talk about what it's like growing up in Texas when you realize you might just be a liberal, what presidential politics looks like to an expat, and what is on the minds of parents today as they work to raise their children in these politically charged times. 


To learn more about Black Mamas Matter Alliance, the charity Katie discusses, go to: https://blackmamasmatter.org

Black Mamas Matter Alliance is a Black women-led cross-sectoral alliance that looks to advocate, drive research, build power, and shift culture for Black maternal health, rights, and justice.

Twitter: @BlkMamasMatter

Instagram: @blackmamasmatter

Facebook: @BlackMamasMatter

YouTube: Black Mamas Matter Alliance BMMA


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