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3rd Person

58 episodes - English - Latest episode: over 2 years ago - ★★★★ - 6 ratings

Travel back in time to relive the adventures of Joel and John in the form of an immersive stereo experience. As you hear us develop as individuals, friends, and collaborators, you may find yourself growing right alongside us. This is our most vulnerable project to date, and we hope you take this opportunity to adventure and travel with a couple fellas who may just become your new best friends.

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Record 01 Entry 51: Wings

November 14, 2021 17:00 - 3 hours - 184 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. Notes coming soon. Drinking my coffee first. BEST CONSUMED THROUGH HEADPHONES Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3rdPersonPod www.3rdPersonPod.com

Record 01 Entry 50: Milestones

November 07, 2021 17:00 - 2 hours - 154 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. Few updates: Work: Hanna is leaving as of two days ago. Gonna miss her, she's a neat gal. Got a job in some sort of medical organization something, very proud of her. John brought two new people on and they seem chill. I know one of them from college, Monica - I'm pretty sure she comes up at some point in the podcast. The other is this gal Meredith, who is one of our cooler regulars. Music/Band: Patrick is recording his parts for Sweet Dublin Bay as I write this. Th...

Record 01 Entry 49: Larger Portions

October 31, 2021 16:00 - 3 hours - 182 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. Some of you may have read my entry a few weeks ago where I share that I've had some issues with Cubital Tunnel Syndrome. There have been some updates - some of it good, some of it bad: The good news is that I believe I've found the root cause. When I first began having issues, I reached out to a few of my friends for prayer. When I reached out to my friend Nate (of podcast fame), he stated that he's been having the exact same issues and stated that it very well could...

Record 01 Entry 48: Alinea

October 24, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 152 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who takes the time to read the episode notes. I know frequency has been lacking as of late, and for that, I apologize. I've come to take a certain amount of pride and joy in writing these and when It comes to endeavors I care about, I'm really hesitant putting out a lackluster product. This week, however, it was really important to me that I complete these notes. When Record 01 first began, we were still figuring out the format...

Record 01 Entry 47: Celebratory Drinks

October 17, 2021 16:00 - 1 hour - 90.3 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. Entry 48 just dropped about 3 minutes ago. This is to say - I'm writing these notes about a week after the entry actually dropped. I wrote in the entry 48 notes that I've been concerned with the quality of my writing the past few weeks which has led me to not write notes at all. However, this has been exacerbated by some other elements that I've yet to touch on. Ever since my youth I've dealt with a certain amount of numbness and tingling in my hands. Particularly wh...

Record 01 Entry 46: Where in the World is Grant Achatz?

October 10, 2021 16:00 - 3 hours - 172 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. I love food. I used to think everyone loved food - and I think most would say they do. But this isn't true - most people just enjoy food. They eat food, it tastes good, and it nourishes them.   BEST CONSUMED THROUGH HEADPHONES Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3rdPersonPod www.3rdPersonPod.com

Record 01, Entry 45: Leaving Greg

October 03, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 126 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. I miss Greg. Back in 2019, I was working at Tudor House Tea and Spice. At the time, it was just me and Hailey manning the shop. This meant that unless it was for a gig, I didn't really like requesting off work. When Thanksgiving rolled around, I didn't go home. I had the day itself off, but it was a tight fit to try and make anything work so I decided to just hang out at the apartment alone. When Greg found out he took it upon himself to leave his family Thanksgiving ...

Record 01, Entry 44: Game Night

September 26, 2021 16:00 - 3 hours - 183 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. Uploaded this late. Normally I'm pretty good about uploading the podcast on time but my morning was kind of thrown off. Honestly, my whole week has been kinda weird. Mostly just cuz I threw out my back doing squats. It wasn't even doing the squats themselves - it was moving the plates in between sets. Did a makeup workout tonight now that I feel close to 100%. Anyways - Imma try and change my computer's clock to yesterday to see if I can trick the system. BEST CONSUM...

Record 01, Entry 43: Greg

September 19, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 164 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. Hanging with Patrick. Will chat later. BEST CONSUMED THROUGH HEADPHONES Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3rdPersonPod www.3rdPersonPod.com

Record 01, Entry 42: Road to Greg

September 13, 2021 03:00 - 2 hours - 122 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. Thank God, we're almost through the quarantine episodes. I enjoy this phase, but because we recorded so much unusable content (LOL), it's been a feat just to scrounge together a coherent episode each week. Much of the burden of this falls on John as he is the one who listens through all the raw audio and takes notes. Each week he listens to upwards of 12 hours of content. That's far more time than either of us are capable of being interesting. Where things get tough f...

Record 01, Entry 41: Video Games with Ariana

September 05, 2021 16:00 - 3 hours - 201 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. Lol I need to write these sooner. The notes are half done but I have to go to work. I'll finish later today - they're about how my perspective toward pop music has changed over the years. BEST CONSUMED THROUGH HEADPHONES Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3rdPersonPod www.3rdPersonPod.com

Record 01, Entry 40: The Two Popes

August 29, 2021 16:00 - 3 hours - 172 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. Just wanted to give a shout-out this week to our producer, Lukas. Thanks for everything you do, buddy. These episodes always sound so good.  BEST CONSUMED THROUGH HEADPHONES Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3rdPersonPod www.3rdPersonPod.com

Record 01, Entry 39: Oreimo

August 22, 2021 16:00 - 5 hours - 279 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. This entry's conversation around the show "Oreimo" features a common dynamic between John and I. I exhibit a very performative display of open-mindedness, while John exhibits some distaste not uncommon among Western audiences.  On its surface, the conversation is a lighthearted jaunt over popular Japanese comedic tropes, but I remember being genuinely unsure about the real truth at the heart of our discourse. Mainstream morality is hardly a benchmark for truth, but t...

Record 01, Entry 38: Quarantine Walk E

August 15, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 134 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. Is there a point where our audience could peak so far behind the curtain that they would recoil with digust? My thought has always been no. I'm comfortable sharing my flaws through this medium because they are contextualized within the entirety of my person. The idea being that after hours and hours of getting to know John and I, our audience will be able to see our humanity amidst any social misgivings. This has lead me to leave in some less than favorable lines of d...

Record 01, Entry 37: Breakfast with Mildred

August 08, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 154 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. Arguably, the biggest disparity between John and me is how thoroughly we analyze the world around us. I tend to overthink and John tends to underthink. John is very intelligent but there's a reason I write these self-indulgent essays and he doesn't. Initially, I wrote these on behalf of the two of us, but after realizing how evident my voice was in the writing, the phrase "Hey, y'all - Joel and John here" felt very silly. (Initially, I was just going to leave it ther...

Record 01, Entry 36: Quarantine Walk D

August 01, 2021 16:00 - 1 hour - 95.5 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. I had the privilege of officiating my buddy Patrick's wedding last week. (Yo Yo Imma finish this later today so if you see this after it's dropped, lucky you.) BEST CONSUMED THROUGH HEADPHONES Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3rdPersonPod www.3rdPersonPod.com

Record 01, Entry 35: He Is Risen Indeed

July 25, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 145 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. I never know what to do at parties. I usually just end up sitting quietly. This isn't because I feel particularly socially anxious, but rather the opposite. I find I lack the needed social drive to put myself out there. I do well at work and at shows because of the performative aspect, but when my only reason for being an active participant is social fulfillment rather than glory or a paycheck, I feel I lack the tools I need to function.  This is not to say I don't wi...

Record 01, Entry 34: Quarantine Walk C

July 18, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 129 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. The quarantine walks describe many setbacks that we encountered as individuals during 2020. I find it very satisfying listening as those setbacks are now being resolved in the present. Losing the Beaver Island Music Festival was a real blow for the band. For a while, it represented a beacon of hope that "normal" was not too far off. But finally, it dropped. I'm very pleased to say, that come 7 AM, John and I are going to hit the road for Beaver Island. This will be th...

Record 01, Entry 33: Quarantine Walk B

July 11, 2021 16:00 - 1 hour - 104 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. I'm in charge of compiling all of the episode data for each entry. This means that I'm in charge of writing the episode notes, the episode summary, the episode name, etc. It's very important to me that all of this information be thoughtful and accurate, especially when it comes to the historical information contained within the episode summary. Lukas's monologue is a large part of what makes an entry feel like a time capsule. I don't want the listener to just feel li...

Record 01, Entry 32: A Journey In Solitude Begins

July 04, 2021 16:00 - 1 hour - 86.5 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. I give a lot of caveats. I tend to be very confident, but I always feel the need to buffer my arrogance through the use of phrases like, "don't quote me on this," "I very well could be wrong," or the iconic "I'm talking out of my butt." Often I don't actually feel that I may be wrong. However, I cerebrally understand that my emotional belief in my own infallibility does not constitute its existence. I know this because I'm continually presented with examples of times...

Record 01, Entry 32: Quarantine Walk A

July 04, 2021 16:00 - 1 hour - 86.5 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. I give a lot of caveats. I tend to be very confident, but I always feel the need to buffer my arrogance through the use of phrases like, "don't quote me on this," "I very well could be wrong," or the iconic "I'm talking out of my butt." Often I don't actually feel that I may be wrong. However, I cerebrally understand that my emotional belief in my own infallibility does not constitute its existence. I know this because I'm continually presented with examples of times...

Record 01, Entry 31: Work In Progress

June 27, 2021 16:00 - 7 hours - 409 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. For the past couple of years, John and I have been trying to learn how to sing. We've done this because I have a grand vision for our band which relies heavily on us having a "wall of vocal sound." However, I'll be the first to say that this is one of our loftier goals as a band. Growing up, I was a notably bad singer. I never really cared for the human voice as all of the music I listened to was instrumental folk music. Because of this, I never developed the baselin...

Record 01, Entry 30: Last Meal

June 13, 2021 16:00 - 1 hour - 65.4 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. One of the more significant moments from Entry 01 was when I revealed that I had not engaged in any sort of romantic activity for six years. Since the recording of that entry, I've reached the seven-year mark. This has been because I simply haven't been interested. The idea of giving such a large part of myself over to someone else is unappealing to me. Or at least it has been. I spend much of the podcast pontificating as to whether or not I will ever date. However, I...

Record 01, Entry 29: Teatime

June 06, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 134 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. We've finally made it to the "Quarantine arc." I'm excited to share this arc because of how drastically the format of the podcast changes. The first act of Record 01 is all about pushing outward- traveling, meeting new people, and experiencing new things. The second act, or "Quarantine Arc," is instead about pushing inward. The 3rd Person will become very familiar with the staples of our lives this past year. They'll come to know us even more deeply while becoming aur...

Record 01, Entry 28: "Take It Away Boys"

May 30, 2021 16:00 - 3 hours - 166 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. A few days ago John turned to me and said, " I can't believe we have a gig in a month." This was a statement that I quickly corroborated. There was a time where the idea of going even one month without playing a show seemed like an eternity. However, after going more than a year, the idea of playing in public at all seems surreal. This week's entry contains our last live performance before COVID. When we first recorded it I felt as though it was just a fun, lightheart...

Record 01, Entry 27: Last Gig Ever?

May 16, 2021 16:00 - 3 hours - 188 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. When we first started releasing, I had many people in my life ask what success would look like for the podcast. I would always say that the podcast was successful the moment we released the first entry. We had one goal: To prove that innovation is possible within the podcast medium. We achieved that goal. Whether or not it's interesting, or even listenable, is ultimately not a concern of mine or John's.* There are many things we'd love to do with this podcast. We'd lo...

Record 01, Entry 26: The Good Times

May 09, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 135 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. I listened to last week's episode, which is a departure from the norm. When we first started releasing the podcast, I would listen every week. The podcast gives me a large amount of joy. It features some of the more positive times in my life, and some of the people I care most about. However, some of our more recent entries reminded me of some more stressful moments from the past year, as well as some failings. Nothing that ultimately has been negative, but just not a...

Record 01, Entry 25: Midwest Sushi

May 02, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 127 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. Goshdangit I'm losing my goshdang hair. It's not horrible yet but if I don't do something now it's gonna be irreversible. I want to go on finasteride but I'm worried my SHBG is too high and I'll get gynecomastia. I had my bloodwork done a few months ago and it was within the normal range but on the higher end. This has absolutely nothing to do with the podcast but it's all I can think about right now. Anyways, hope you enjoy this entry. BEST CONSUMED THROUGH HEADPHON...

Record 01, Entry 24: It All Comes Together?

April 25, 2021 16:00 - 1 hour - 83.3 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. I really wanted to record for the entirety of the recording process. However, the anxiety of being in the studio got to me and I cut this one short. Nonetheless, I find this entry quite interesting despite the fact that I am audibly nervous for its entirety.  P.S. Sam, I know you denied my friend request. BEST CONSUMED THROUGH HEADPHONES Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3rdPersonPod www.3rdPersonPod.com

Record 01, Entry 23: Prayer and Fasting

April 18, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 131 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. It's easy to forget that seasons of prosperity usually coincide with seasons of hard work and often stress. Always gotta be thankful for the current moment. Anyways, this one's for the dude from my work who said he listened to a few episodes. Thanks for that - hope you enjoyed your coffee with soy. BEST CONSUMED THROUGH HEADPHONES Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3rdPersonPod www.3rdPersonPod.com

Record 01, Entry 22: Make Your Own Jokes

April 11, 2021 16:00 - 3 hours - 210 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. Listening back to these entries is a little stressful for me. Usually listening back to these podcasts brings me a large amount of joy as they are aural time capsules of some of the fonder times of my life. However, while I did have a good time on this trip by in large, the subtext is that I was pushing towards a big deadline for the band. Even though everything ended up being fine, listening back transports me to the emotional headspace I was in while I attempted to ...

Record 01, Entry 21: DePaul

April 04, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 125 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. Neither John nor I attend DePaul University. However, because Patrick is enrolled there, we both feel emotionally connected to the campus, even if only tangentially. We've held auditions at DePaul, seen performances, and made friends. For John and I, the Chicago trip was a novel time where we further cemented our bonds to various landmarks in our lives. Landmarks that likely no longer exist as we remember them. BEST CONSUMED THROUGH HEADPHONES Follow @3rdPersonPod w...

Record 01, Entry 20: "Play the Lick"

March 28, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 127 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. This week the 3rd Person joins us as we continue to peruse the Fine Arts Building in Chicago. I know for many, all of these violin shop entries may seem monotonous. However, John and I are finding it fascinating listening back and hearing the nuances of the different instruments. BEST CONSUMED THROUGH HEADPHONES Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3rdPersonPod www.3rdPersonPod.com

Record 01, Entry 19: Hope Y'all Like the Violin

March 21, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 129 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. I'm running behind so I'll be writing these notes when I get home from church. If you see this before then, lucky you. Edit: I know that these next few entries may not be for everyone, but if you're someone who cares about craftsmanship and attention to detail, we might have something for you. I put a fair amount of thought into these notes. However, I do sometimes find myself staring at a blank screen, at a loss for what to say. Not because I have nothing to say, bu...

Record 01, Entry 19: William Harris Lee

March 21, 2021 16:00 - 2 hours - 129 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. I'm running behind so I'll be writing these notes when I get home from church. If you see this before then, lucky you. BEST CONSUMED THROUGH HEADPHONES Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3rdPersonPod www.3rdPersonPod.com

Record 01, Entry 18: Making Art

March 14, 2021 16:00 - 3 hours - 211 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. I've mentioned before that this podcast is in-part about finding the narrative in everyday experiences. Discovering the natural arcs that exist in both the mundanities and the eccentricities of our lives is fascinating to me. However, what I find even more interesting is that recording our experiences allows for actual literary devices to occur. In Entry 17 there's a moment where the listener will experience dramatic foreshadowing. If you listen closely during the se...

Record 01, Entry 17: The Chicago Trip Begins

March 07, 2021 17:00 - 2 hours - 121 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel here. I've always considered myself to be relatively healthy, but up until recently, this was far from the case. I felt healthy because I felt happy and confident and my body image reflected that. However, whenever something brought that idea of health into question, my confidence would plummet. Not because I was unhappy with my body, but because my self-image and reality did not align. This lead to various unhealthy eating practices, including binging and occasionally star...

Record 01, Entry 16: A Good Day's End

February 28, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 59.1 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel and John here. Listening back to the podcast has been an interesting exercise in self-reflection. There are many things that we've learned about ourselves, but our chief observation has been that Joel loves to talk as if he knows everything when, in actuality, he knows very little. We'll keep this brief since last week's notes were an essay, but we hope that you, the 3rd Person, enjoys hearing Joel share his priceless wisdom on comedy and art for an hour straight. BEST CON...

Record 01, Entry 15: WTF with Joel and John

February 21, 2021 17:00 - 4 hours - 236 MB

Hey, y'all - Just Joel here today. I've been a fan of the podcast medium for over a decade now. I became a dedicated listener to the podcast version of the radio show "This American Life" back in early 2008. Every Sunday, I would open the show's RSS feed, refresh the page until the newest episode appeared, download the episode onto my fourth-generation iPod Nano, and go to bed early so I could listen to it as I went to sleep. There are many moments from that show that had an impact on me, b...

Record 01, Entry 14: Ben and The Old Dog

February 14, 2021 17:00 - 2 hours - 141 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel and John here. The podcast, despite merely being a document of our lives, does have  certain amount of narrative. While our preparation is minimal, and our execution is free-form, our podcast is able to find narrative in the natural phases and arks of our lives. We've enjoyed going back and seeing smaller moments in our lives lead to larger cascades of events. The show we attend in Entry 14 is a sort of finale to an ark that started, after some preamble, with us introducing...

Record 01, Entry 13: A Failed Outing

February 07, 2021 17:00 - 2 hours - 116 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel and John here. Straight up - we're a little nervous to post this one. We let some of our many flaws float a little too close to the surface. When we were editing John brought up whether or not Joel wanted to cut a particular line of dialogue. Nothing horrible or even all that objectionable is said, but the content is moderately personal in a way that Joel is uncomfortable with. Although he may posture as one, Joel is far from an open book. However, the podcast is very much ...

Record 01, Entry 12: An Idle Day in Paw Paw

January 31, 2021 17:00 - 2 hours - 155 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel and John here. We do very little prep-work for the podcast. This is because the structure of the podcast is formed from the inherent structure of our lives. We choose not to record with a purpose. Instead, we choose to live with a purpose and use the podcast to form a narrative out of the abstract. Most entries, by this nature, have some sort of connection to our careers and have some sort of objective. However, we don't live every day in a state of forward motion. Entry 12...

Record 01, Entry 11: A Journey Close to Home

January 24, 2021 17:00 - 3 hours - 172 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel and John here. Entry 11 is a journey. This entry has the most characters, the most locations, and the most diverse set of experiences of any entry to date. As the 3rd Person, you will hear live music, you will dance with friends, and you will meet new people. BEST CONSUMED THROUGH HEADPHONES Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3rdPersonPod www.3rdPersonPod.com

Record 01, Entry 10: Composer Man Stan and the Ben Daniels Band

January 17, 2021 17:00 - 3 hours - 178 MB

Hey, y'all - just Joel here. I first met Lukas back in 2013 at an ice cream social during "Welcome Week" at Western Michigan University. I was an incoming freshman and Lukas was a sophomore. We both were music composition students so naturally, I chose to make him my friend. We spent the first year of our friendship finding out all the ways that we are similar. We spent the following seven years finding out all the ways that we are different.  Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3rdPerson...

Record 01, Entry 09: The Foothills Cafe

January 10, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 66.4 MB

Hey, y'all - just Joel here. I'm writing to you directly this week because John won't be present for this entry. Instead, Lukas Stanley, our producer and dear friend, will be stepping into John's role as co-host. This was one of two entries that John and I initially did not intend for public release. However, as we've collaborated with Lukas this past year, we came to realize that he really is the unofficial third host of the podcast. Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3rdPersonPod www....

Record 01, Entry 08: A Life Up North

January 03, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 63.6 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel and John here. Our band, The Founding, is comprised of six members in total. Of those six, three individuals have degrees/experience in music education. This has made workshops and performances a staple of our gigging roster. When the band traveled to Glen Arbor, we were expecting our experience to be familiar. We were mistaken. The Leelanau School is a hidden gem tucked away in the deep of Northern Michigan's forests. Entry 08 brings the 3rd Person with us to a venue we ca...

Record 01, Entry 07: The Trials of Friendship

December 27, 2020 17:00 - 3 hours - 208 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel and John here. Those who know us well know that we are passionate about two things. We are passionate about our art, and we are passionate about the people with whom we share our lives. The 3rd Person's seventh entry is a return to form from Entry 01 because it represents the more intimate side of these passions. Entry 07 dives further into the dear friendship and artistic partnership that was the catalyst for the podcast's creation. Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3...

Record 01, Entry 06: Show and a Dinner

December 20, 2020 17:00 - 2 hours - 123 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel and John here. The two of us had very different family experiences growing up. Most of the reasons for variation between our two experiences can be attributed to one thing: family size. John's immediate family consists of more than ten people, whereas Joel's consists of four. When a family is as large as John's, certain social dynamics develop that simply aren't possible in a smaller family. Ideas like hierarchy and gossip don't make a lot of sense when there are only three...

Record 01, Entry 05: Pizza Now, Show Later

December 13, 2020 17:00 - 1 hour - 78.1 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel and John here. Festivals allow us musicians to experience  a show from all angles. We begin as part of the crew, helping the festival staff to prepare for the ensuing show. We then transition to being audience members, indulging in food and drink while supporting whatever band we share a bill with. Lastly, we ascend to the stage as the band. Direct intimacy is not as overt as with a small venue. However, with the integrated community-based social structure of a festival, th...

Record 01, Entry 04: Are We There Yet?

December 06, 2020 17:00 - 1 hour - 73.2 MB

Hey, y'all - Joel and John here. The Allerton Park Celtic Festival was the first in a line of gigs The Founding had in August of 2019, following a several month hiatus. The 3rd Person joins Joel, John, Lukas, and Patrick as they travel toward Monticello, brimming with excitement to see and perform with their friends EJ and Kyle. Follow @3rdPersonPod www.Patreon.com/3rdPersonPod www.3rdPersonPod.com